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Replying To TheHermit:  "I'm pretty sure Kerry played with their usual jersey in the 97 final.
These days Kerry and Mayo both usually change their strip if they meet but in 04 and 06 they both wore their usual colours and I don't recall any huge problem with it. I certainly didn't have any trouble picking out whose who in the terrace that day.
Interestingly when Kerry won their first football All Ireland for the 1903 championship, they were reported as wearing green and red but once they won they officially lodged their colours with the GAA as green and gold, the gold hoop being added in recognition of their first title.

Kildare meanwhile took on their nickname to such an extent their players whitewashed their boots in those finals against Kerry!

Cork of course famously changed from blue to red and white in 1920.
Dublin switched to navy in the early 60s so it would come up better on the black and white television.
Down likewise made the controversial decision at the time to wear black shorts instead of the traditional red to have a distinctive appearance.

I seem to recall hearing that Sligo were always white a little black trim but then at some stage in the 90s decided to reverse it and make it a mostly black strip."
Bit like Donegal in 1992 who never changed back Sligo changed to an all black strip in 2001 against Kildare and never reverted. Am trying to recall if Sligo wore all black regularly before that and remember seeing us play them in 2000 in Markievicz wearing a white jersey and black shorts.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1693 - 19/09/2020 08:12:31    2292991

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "In '86 semi final Meath played on Green and White (Leinster colours) while Kerry wore Blue and White (Munster colours). Think this also was case a few times when Meath and Kerry played in underage way back."
YouTube prompted me yesterday to watch our 1990 semi final against Donegal. In that game we changed to the Green and White of Leinster while Donegal changed to Gold & Black of Ulster.
But 2 years earlier in our 88 semi final against Mayo we changed to a Gold jersey while Mayo played with a red jersey with a red band (if I remember right).
Back then teams had no formal second jerseys, the GAA must have informed counties what colours they had to wear in matches with colour clashes and they were arbitrary each time whether they decided to go with provincial colours/ reverse colours of traditional strip or minor changes to existing strips. (Again I assume the GAA would have had to decide as otherwise 2 teams with no formal second strip could accidentally pick changed kits that clashed again).

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 731 - 20/09/2020 08:17:57    2293122

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Traditionally teams that clashed took on the colours of the province but nowadays teams have a 'second' or away jersey, in some cases the away jersey is nicer than the home jersey but that's only my opinion.

At club level most teams just have the reverse as in a white jersey with red sleeves becomes a red jersey with white sleeves etc...

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 4805 - 20/09/2020 10:36:40    2293143

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "YouTube prompted me yesterday to watch our 1990 semi final against Donegal. In that game we changed to the Green and White of Leinster while Donegal changed to Gold & Black of Ulster.
But 2 years earlier in our 88 semi final against Mayo we changed to a Gold jersey while Mayo played with a red jersey with a red band (if I remember right).
Back then teams had no formal second jerseys, the GAA must have informed counties what colours they had to wear in matches with colour clashes and they were arbitrary each time whether they decided to go with provincial colours/ reverse colours of traditional strip or minor changes to existing strips. (Again I assume the GAA would have had to decide as otherwise 2 teams with no formal second strip could accidentally pick changed kits that clashed again)."
Meath changing to green is the most pointless thing I've ever heard of

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1018 - 20/09/2020 12:01:41    2293156

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "Traditionally teams that clashed took on the colours of the province but nowadays teams have a 'second' or away jersey, in some cases the away jersey is nicer than the home jersey but that's only my opinion.

At club level most teams just have the reverse as in a white jersey with red sleeves becomes a red jersey with white sleeves etc..."
The issue is that, for some reason, clubs refuse to use their reverse Jersey. You can understand that an under 12 side might not have a change kit but I refuse to belive that 2 senior championship sides (as we witnessed in Antrim) don't have a reverse kit, as you say with colours inverted. It spoils the game for supporters and it also spoils the game for players who can't distinguish who is on what team. Where's the direction from above as to what the protocol is and how its enforced? If I was refereeing a game and two teams came out wearing the same colour I'd have a fit.

DL_Man (Donegal) - Posts: 68 - 20/09/2020 12:10:21    2293158

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "YouTube prompted me yesterday to watch our 1990 semi final against Donegal. In that game we changed to the Green and White of Leinster while Donegal changed to Gold & Black of Ulster.
But 2 years earlier in our 88 semi final against Mayo we changed to a Gold jersey while Mayo played with a red jersey with a red band (if I remember right).
Back then teams had no formal second jerseys, the GAA must have informed counties what colours they had to wear in matches with colour clashes and they were arbitrary each time whether they decided to go with provincial colours/ reverse colours of traditional strip or minor changes to existing strips. (Again I assume the GAA would have had to decide as otherwise 2 teams with no formal second strip could accidentally pick changed kits that clashed again)."
Typo in previous message, obviously a Red jersey with a red band is a contradiction, in 88 Mayo played Red jersey with Green band.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 731 - 20/09/2020 15:05:54    2293191

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Replying To Breezy:  "Meath changing to green is the most pointless thing I've ever heard of"
It is a bit funny all right, basically the only real change to the strip was a White collar instead of a Gold collar (as Meath already play in White shorts).

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 731 - 20/09/2020 15:08:09    2293192

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Replying To DL_Man:  "The issue is that, for some reason, clubs refuse to use their reverse Jersey. You can understand that an under 12 side might not have a change kit but I refuse to belive that 2 senior championship sides (as we witnessed in Antrim) don't have a reverse kit, as you say with colours inverted. It spoils the game for supporters and it also spoils the game for players who can't distinguish who is on what team. Where's the direction from above as to what the protocol is and how its enforced? If I was refereeing a game and two teams came out wearing the same colour I'd have a fit."
I've seen a team turn their jerseys inside out to resolve a colour clash.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 367 - 20/09/2020 16:17:20    2293205

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Replying To lionofludesch:  "I've seen a team turn their jerseys inside out to resolve a colour clash."
Far more common that teams actually wearing an away kit! Farcical but extremely commonplace - certainly within Donegal anyway. I once witnessed a referee start a game and then 5 minutes in stop and ask one team to reverse their jerseys. I can't imagine that would happen in many other sports.

DL_Man (Donegal) - Posts: 68 - 20/09/2020 21:15:08    2293280

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Replying To DL_Man:  "Far more common that teams actually wearing an away kit! Farcical but extremely commonplace - certainly within Donegal anyway. I once witnessed a referee start a game and then 5 minutes in stop and ask one team to reverse their jerseys. I can't imagine that would happen in many other sports."
I suspect it's more common than you think at grass roots level.

It's very practical for the odd time there's a colour clash.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 367 - 20/09/2020 22:19:27    2293302

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Leitrim played Donegal perhaps ten years ago in a qualifier and they wore the provincial colours, Leitrim in white and blue and Donegal in gold and black, it was a bit confusing! More confusing was we could have beat Donegal!

Our most famous colour change of course is the Connacht final of 1994 where we played in yellow jerseys. That sold quite a few replicas around the county as you might imagine.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 55 - 21/09/2020 08:32:35    2293335

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