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KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 28/09/2020 20:39:52    2294625

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Some posters here showing a few red thumbs and a bit of rejection towards RTE at the minute, my self-included, but if we were to point a finger at the top 10 issues that need immediate attention / fixing what would they be, I'll set the ball rolling with 7.
1. All vacancies to be clearly advertised for a timely period prior to the vacancy being filled.
2. All internal applicants to be guaranteed an interview after making the application.
3. DG position to be for 3 years, then, depending on success of internal projects, extra year(s) may be an option.
4. Should someone retire or accept redundancy, then that person should not have the option of returning on a contract
basis.
5. The appropriate minister should be seen to be taking a deeper interest in all that is RTE.
6. Promotions should be on merit only. Openness and transparency to apply.
7. Gender balancing a must.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2082 - 28/09/2020 16:31:33
Some of that would be illegal. You cant stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work.
Why should all internal applicants be guaranteed an interview? What jobs ensure that happens?
What exactly do you mean a minister taking a deeper interest in RTE? What do you want ministers to do?"
Your Killing me with all those questions, - Like, 1. Some of that would be illegal - Perhaps un-lawful but not illegal. 2. You can't stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work. - RTE is heavily unionized, HR and Union policy document / agreement should cover all eventualities. 3. Why should all internal applicants be guaranteed an interview - Good HR and Union working relationship. 4. What jobs ensure that happens? - All job's that fit the job description as advertised. 5. What exactly do you mean a minister taking a deeper interest in RTE? - He appears to be taking little or no part at the minute. 6. What do you want ministers to do? - Their job.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2114 - 28/09/2020 21:14:33    2294635

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Your Killing me with all those questions, - Like, 1. Some of that would be illegal - Perhaps un-lawful but not illegal. 2. You can't stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work. - RTE is heavily unionized, HR and Union policy document / agreement should cover all eventualities. 3. Why should all internal applicants be guaranteed an interview - Good HR and Union working relationship. 4. What jobs ensure that happens? - All job's that fit the job description as advertised. 5. What exactly do you mean a minister taking a deeper interest in RTE? - He appears to be taking little or no part at the minute. 6. What do you want ministers to do? - Their job.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2083 - 28/09/2020 21:14:33
In no way would HR policy etc allow/cover what you suggest.
Yes it would be illegal and talking about unlawful/illegal is just getting into semantics.
You just cant stop someone who retires and comes back to work
Just because you are internal candidate doesnt mean you deserve an interview for a job. It isnt good for unions if people with no right or little right getting an interview simply because they are already in the organisation. would you recommend all other businesses to do the same as that7
You say take a deeper interest but what does that actually mean and doing more means what exactly?
And again you just say their job to number 6 but what do you actually want them to do?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 28/09/2020 22:20:50    2294651

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Replying To supersub15:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "Some posters here showing a few red thumbs and a bit of rejection towards RTE at the minute, my self-included, but if we were to point a finger at the top 10 issues that need immediate attention / fixing what would they be, I'll set the ball rolling with 7.
1. All vacancies to be clearly advertised for a timely period prior to the vacancy being filled.
2. All internal applicants to be guaranteed an interview after making the application.
3. DG position to be for 3 years, then, depending on success of internal projects, extra year(s) may be an option.
4. Should someone retire or accept redundancy, then that person should not have the option of returning on a contract
basis.
5. The appropriate minister should be seen to be taking a deeper interest in all that is RTE.
6. Promotions should be on merit only. Openness and transparency to apply.
7. Gender balancing a must.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2082 - 28/09/2020 16:31:33
Some of that would be illegal. You cant stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work.
Why should all internal applicants be guaranteed an interview? What jobs ensure that happens?
What exactly do you mean a minister taking a deeper interest in RTE? What do you want ministers to do?"
Your Killing me with all those questions, - Like, 1. Some of that would be illegal - Perhaps un-lawful but not illegal. 2. You can't stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work. - RTE is heavily unionized, HR and Union policy document / agreement should cover all eventualities. 3. Why should all internal applicants be guaranteed an interview - Good HR and Union working relationship. 4. What jobs ensure that happens? - All job's that fit the job description as advertised. 5. What exactly do you mean a minister taking a deeper interest in RTE? - He appears to be taking little or no part at the minute. 6. What do you want ministers to do? - Their job."
There's a time frame, post redundancy, where the redundant worker has to stay officially unemployed to qualify for redundancy payment. Not sure what the time frame is, think it's six months. So if your offered redundancy and considering it, but also have another job offer when you leave, never tell your current employer about the job offer. They're 'entitled' to block your redundancy payment if you take up the new job straight after you leave. Which is legal but sounds unethical, all weighted for the employer, not the employee. There's usually a clause in the redundancy deal that they cannot reapply for the same job within 12 months. Also legal is the practice of offering redundancy to time served and experienced workers while hiring younger staff to do their job for much less money. Anyone close to retirement can be tempted to take what's on offer.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5873 - 01/10/2020 10:41:44    2295000

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "Some posters here showing a few red thumbs and a bit of rejection towards RTE at the minute, my self-included, but if we were to point a finger at the top 10 issues that need immediate attention / fixing what would they be, I'll set the ball rolling with 7.
1. All vacancies to be clearly advertised for a timely period prior to the vacancy being filled.
2. All internal applicants to be guaranteed an interview after making the application.
3. DG position to be for 3 years, then, depending on success of internal projects, extra year(s) may be an option.
4. Should someone retire or accept redundancy, then that person should not have the option of returning on a contract
basis.
5. The appropriate minister should be seen to be taking a deeper interest in all that is RTE.
6. Promotions should be on merit only. Openness and transparency to apply.
7. Gender balancing a must.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2082 - 28/09/2020 16:31:33
Some of that would be illegal. You cant stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work.
Why should all internal applicants be guaranteed an interview? What jobs ensure that happens?
What exactly do you mean a minister taking a deeper interest in RTE? What do you want ministers to do?"
Your Killing me with all those questions, - Like, 1. Some of that would be illegal - Perhaps un-lawful but not illegal. 2. You can't stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work. - RTE is heavily unionized, HR and Union policy document / agreement should cover all eventualities. 3. Why should all internal applicants be guaranteed an interview - Good HR and Union working relationship. 4. What jobs ensure that happens? - All job's that fit the job description as advertised. 5. What exactly do you mean a minister taking a deeper interest in RTE? - He appears to be taking little or no part at the minute. 6. What do you want ministers to do? - Their job."
There's a time frame, post redundancy, where the redundant worker has to stay officially unemployed to qualify for redundancy payment. Not sure what the time frame is, think it's six months. So if your offered redundancy and considering it, but also have another job offer when you leave, never tell your current employer about the job offer. They're 'entitled' to block your redundancy payment if you take up the new job straight after you leave. Which is legal but sounds unethical, all weighted for the employer, not the employee. There's usually a clause in the redundancy deal that they cannot reapply for the same job within 12 months. Also legal is the practice of offering redundancy to time served and experienced workers while hiring younger staff to do their job for much less money. Anyone close to retirement can be tempted to take what's on offer."]Greenandred, -You are indeed correct in most of what you say and suggest, I'm focusing more on some one that retires, for the moment anyway.

RTE want to reduce the numbers, they are pushing people out the door with a redundancy package where applicable, there are some whose contracts are not being renewed, radio included, and they walk away with nothing. New hiring's are being put on hold but one or two came in under the radar. I'm not ageist, or sexist.in fact I'm all for people who want to work on long after they retire, it's just that RTE is an isolated case, they are cash strapped, financially not in a good place, etc, etc, etc so why not let those that retire enjoy their monthly pension pay cheque and lump sum, at the same time help someone from within get off the first rung of the ladder.


To KillingFields: 2. You can't stop anyone from retiring/accepting redundancy and then returning to work. - RTE is heavily unionized; HR and Union policy document / agreement should cover all eventualities.

Illegal means breaking a law, doing something that there is an explicit law saying you cannot do.

"Unlawful means doing something that you do not have the right to do"

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2114 - 01/10/2020 14:54:03    2295072

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Doesn't redundancy mean that your post is effectively suppressed ?

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 46 - 01/10/2020 18:29:35    2295121

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "Doesn't redundancy mean that your post is effectively suppressed ?"
Yes. The post is usually suppressed at the time of redundancy. But, cynically, I think that sometimes vacancies arise for similar posts soon after the older, experienced, better paid employees leave after voluntarily taking redundancy. Employers are being incentivised to hire graduates, under 25, who will be paid a lot less for the similar post.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5873 - 02/10/2020 00:07:41    2295184

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Just let Andrew Neil at RTE. Break the bank to get him and he ll sort out the organisation in 6 months. He ll rebalance the whole place. Theres talk hes heading up a new news channel in the UK. But surely we need drastic action in Ireland to redress the balance. RTE is unwatchable for centre right type people such as myself .

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1283 - 03/10/2020 16:07:54    2295445

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Just let Andrew Neil at RTE. Break the bank to get him and he ll sort out the organisation in 6 months. He ll rebalance the whole place. Theres talk hes heading up a new news channel in the UK. But surely we need drastic action in Ireland to redress the balance. RTE is unwatchable for centre right type people such as myself ."
Undoubtedly the RTE 'old boys' and 'girls' club needs a complete clear out. Their reporting on matters across this Island for the last 50 years is testament to that.

However, I am not sure if your nomination of Andrew Neil is serious?

If it is i would respectively suggest that this is a complete lack of awareness on your part with regard to Andrew Neil and his views on Ireland and 'things' Irish.

Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 248 - 04/10/2020 12:11:54    2295547

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Just let Andrew Neil at RTE. Break the bank to get him and he ll sort out the organisation in 6 months. He ll rebalance the whole place. Theres talk hes heading up a new news channel in the UK. But surely we need drastic action in Ireland to redress the balance. RTE is unwatchable for centre right type people such as myself .
bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1272 - 03/10/2020 16:07:54
Nonsense. RTE and irish media are not at all unbalanced and Neil wouldnt sort anything out. He is so right wing we dont need that kind of thinking.


Undoubtedly the RTE 'old boys' and 'girls' club needs a complete clear out. Their reporting on matters across this Island for the last 50 years is testament to that.
However, I am not sure if your nomination of Andrew Neil is serious?
If it is i would respectively suggest that this is a complete lack of awareness on your part with regard to Andrew Neil and his views on Ireland and 'things' Irish.
Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 245 - 04/10/2020 12:11:54
If RTE was to get a "complete clear out" then who replaces those who would be finished with RTE?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 04/10/2020 15:41:55    2295593

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There is nothing wrong with Andrew Neil lads he is a very intelligent and informative journalist. While I don't agree with all his views but he doesn't care if facts, the truth and logical views on certain subjects hurt the leftie snow-flakes feelings.

RTE would do very well to have him but he wouldn't suit the stations left-wing agenda.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 04/10/2020 23:10:02    2295705

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "There is nothing wrong with Andrew Neil lads he is a very intelligent and informative journalist. While I don't agree with all his views but he doesn't care if facts, the truth and logical views on certain subjects hurt the leftie snow-flakes feelings.

RTE would do very well to have him but he wouldn't suit the stations left-wing agenda."
RTE doesnt have a left wing agenda.
Neil is a complete right wing obsessive. He may be intelligent and informative but he wouldnt be good for RTE and calling people "leftie snow-flakes" is ridiculous and doesnt make any kind of valid point. Its just immature.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 05/10/2020 10:25:44    2295734

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Replying To KillingFields:  "RTE doesnt have a left wing agenda.
Neil is a complete right wing obsessive. He may be intelligent and informative but he wouldnt be good for RTE and calling people "leftie snow-flakes" is ridiculous and doesnt make any kind of valid point. Its just immature."
Jes are you still whining on here? thought you hated this forum and it's outdated format?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 946 - 05/10/2020 15:40:19    2295844

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Just let Andrew Neil at RTE. Break the bank to get him and he ll sort out the organisation in 6 months. He ll rebalance the whole place. Theres talk hes heading up a new news channel in the UK. But surely we need drastic action in Ireland to redress the balance. RTE is unwatchable for centre right type people such as myself ."
Andrew Neil of The Spectator? Are you sure you're "centre-right" if you consider that balanced? Good god.

Who makes RTÉ unwatchable for the centre-right? Which presenters, or which shows? RTÉ is a safe space for the centre-right. Their politics and current affairs productions are supremely balanced in comparison to other national broadcasters.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 165 - 05/10/2020 16:11:44    2295856

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Jes are you still whining on here? thought you hated this forum and it's outdated format?"
You can dislike something and how its set up and still use it.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 05/10/2020 16:20:25    2295859

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "There is nothing wrong with Andrew Neil lads he is a very intelligent and informative journalist. While I don't agree with all his views but he doesn't care if facts, the truth and logical views on certain subjects hurt the leftie snow-flakes feelings.

RTE would do very well to have him but he wouldn't suit the stations left-wing agenda."
I suspect its pointless having a rational discussion with you on the topic but, can you explain what you mean by 'leftie snowflakes'

Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 248 - 05/10/2020 17:20:20    2295875

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Replying To Glensboy:  "Undoubtedly the RTE 'old boys' and 'girls' club needs a complete clear out. Their reporting on matters across this Island for the last 50 years is testament to that.

However, I am not sure if your nomination of Andrew Neil is serious?

If it is i would respectively suggest that this is a complete lack of awareness on your part with regard to Andrew Neil and his views on Ireland and 'things' Irish."
RTE badly needs a clear out but its full on FF/FG family members so it unlikely.

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 463 - 05/10/2020 19:08:39    2295900

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Replying To Glensboy:  "I suspect its pointless having a rational discussion with you on the topic but, can you explain what you mean by 'leftie snowflakes'"
That's the problem anymore. If you don't agree with the fashist right you are now called a radical left supporter. There is not room for moderate conservatism anymore.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 907 - 05/10/2020 19:46:55    2295908

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Replying To KillingFields:  "RTE doesnt have a left wing agenda.
Neil is a complete right wing obsessive. He may be intelligent and informative but he wouldnt be good for RTE and calling people "leftie snow-flakes" is ridiculous and doesnt make any kind of valid point. Its just immature."
Come off it, Ryan Tubridy, Ray D'arcy, Claire Byrne and Miriam O'Callaghan are very bias towards the left and left-wing views. I'll admit the previous generation of RTE presenters like Gay Byrne(although he left himself down very badly with his Annie Murphy interview), Marian finucane and John Bowman were in fairness to them balanced in the way they conducted their programmes but these new generation of presenters on rte pander to a left agenda. I guarantee the next presenter to be head-hunted by RTE will be Matt Cooper.

What's so immature about the term snow-flake just another term for the over-sensitive to be offended by.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 05/10/2020 20:50:37    2295919

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Replying To Glensboy:  "I suspect its pointless having a rational discussion with you on the topic but, can you explain what you mean by 'leftie snowflakes'"
I put my views on a public forum I have no problem with people disagreeing and engaging in debate with them as long as people are respectful, when people go around throwing gib insults and personal attacks at me for having an different opinion to them then I have a problem.

If you want my own definition of a snow-flake is someone who is easy offended and puts political-correctness, emotions and feelings before facts, truths and logical thinking on matters social and political.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 05/10/2020 21:01:29    2295923

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