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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To Canuck:  "Sometimes you would wonder how the Gaa president comes up with his announcements. "Teams will be asked to withdraw from their respective competition in the event of an outbreak." That is the cue for them to hide any cases. So if one of the teams in the final has a case do the other team get the tittle? These off the cuff statements do not inspire confidence and smacks of flying by the seat of the pants."
Cue for them to hide cases? In what way could a County Board possibly hide a confirmed case of COVID-19?

If there's going to be an inter-county championship then of course this is the only way that it is possible. Should Cavan play Donegal in Ulster, and Donegal are in lockdown due to a large number of clusters in the county, then Donegal simply must forfeit if there is no time to reschedule. That's patently obvious. It's not a punishment, it's a responsibility.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 165 - 25/08/2020 10:32:35    2289045

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "Cue for them to hide cases? In what way could a County Board possibly hide a confirmed case of COVID-19?

If there's going to be an inter-county championship then of course this is the only way that it is possible. Should Cavan play Donegal in Ulster, and Donegal are in lockdown due to a large number of clusters in the county, then Donegal simply must forfeit if there is no time to reschedule. That's patently obvious. It's not a punishment, it's a responsibility."
I think they have already said that the Donegal team would be allowed travel to Cavan (for example) to play if that was the case. In fairness it wouldn't take much to also have all of the panel and back room tested before they travel

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 955 - 25/08/2020 10:46:41    2289049

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Replying To zinny:  "I think they have already said that the Donegal team would be allowed travel to Cavan (for example) to play if that was the case. In fairness it wouldn't take much to also have all of the panel and back room tested before they travel"
That's interesting. I still do not see the inter-county competition as anything more than a pipe dream this year to be honest.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 165 - 25/08/2020 11:22:03    2289053

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Replying To zinny:  "I think they have already said that the Donegal team would be allowed travel to Cavan (for example) to play if that was the case. In fairness it wouldn't take much to also have all of the panel and back room tested before they travel"
I agree and there should be no problem with the government financing the said tests as they are doing similar for the biggest beef baron in the country who we are as GAA tax payers are also financing!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2173 - 25/08/2020 11:30:04    2289055

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Well I'm from Limerick and the county didn't sit on its hands in the War of Independence. I would be considered a partitionist by you in that Im happy to have Northern Ireland and Ireland living happily together on one Island. Whats striking to me is that you have Southerners supporting a SF party thats run from a different country. Fellas from Galway and Kerry identifying with West Belfast people. Its crazy. Its left wing ludicrous policies arent even the main issue. SF history of criminality and disloyalty to whatever state they live in is my issue.
I dont see any equivalence between our FF and FG parties and SF. SF would push us towards a terrible border poll which would be devisive. Id vote status quo anyway. The GAA should keep well clear of Republicanism because 75% of irish people have little time for it."
I certainly don't identify with Limerick or "West Brit" rugby either Mr Bloody ban.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1901 - 25/08/2020 11:55:05    2289058

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Replying To galwayford:  "I certainly don't identify with Limerick or "West Brit" rugby either Mr Bloody ban."
Youre anti rugby agenda is very strange

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 25/08/2020 12:06:18    2289059

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "That's interesting. I still do not see the inter-county competition as anything more than a pipe dream this year to be honest."
The only thing I think that will stop it will be GAA deciding that its too costly to run without crowds which it looks increasing like it will have to happen that way.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 955 - 25/08/2020 12:08:45    2289060

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Replying To galwayford:  "I certainly don't identify with Limerick or "West Brit" rugby either Mr Bloody ban."
So following rugby makes you less of an Irishman then in your eyes Galwayford, thought we were past those pathetic 'West Brit' jibes in this day and age!! Also while our Northern brethren might not like it, I would also hazard a guess that most Southerners would identify a lot quicker with Limerick than they would with Belfast?

gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 88 - 25/08/2020 12:45:43    2289064

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Well I'm from Limerick and the county didn't sit on its hands in the War of Independence. I would be considered a partitionist by you in that Im happy to have Northern Ireland and Ireland living happily together on one Island. Whats striking to me is that you have Southerners supporting a SF party thats run from a different country. Fellas from Galway and Kerry identifying with West Belfast people. Its crazy. Its left wing ludicrous policies arent even the main issue. SF history of criminality and disloyalty to whatever state they live in is my issue.
I dont see any equivalence between our FF and FG parties and SF. SF would push us towards a terrible border poll which would be devisive. Id vote status quo anyway. The GAA should keep well clear of Republicanism because 75% of irish people have little time for it."
Your post speaks for itself and demonstrates that you know very little about the history of what went on in the north of our country - are you not aware of what the crown forces, who were supposed to be trying to keep law and order were up to. You should educate yourself on the history of that part of our country before making ill informed comments and I do not condone violence let it be in 1916 or 1969!, or 2020. Obviously you do not believe the democratic process.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2173 - 25/08/2020 12:53:46    2289066

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Replying To timmyhogan:  ".
Would you not be worried that those Mayo hooligans might infect the Corofin lads (not the goalie obviously!) with the Virus to weaken the county team in the run up to the NFL relegation decider."
No worries at all...them Mayo lads are too tough to get a Virus!

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1019 - 25/08/2020 14:00:34    2289079

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "Cue for them to hide cases? In what way could a County Board possibly hide a confirmed case of COVID-19?

If there's going to be an inter-county championship then of course this is the only way that it is possible. Should Cavan play Donegal in Ulster, and Donegal are in lockdown due to a large number of clusters in the county, then Donegal simply must forfeit if there is no time to reschedule. That's patently obvious. It's not a punishment, it's a responsibility."
What a way to start a championship with a plan to cancel. The extent of games to be forfeited not known. The whole idea is ludicrous. The only way this could be done and is already proven to work (NHL) is to form a bubble. This is not practical for amateur players who need to go to work, milk cows, feed livestock, give health care etc. etc. Let alone the cost of.
I would love to have our games but the risk is way too high and planning for failure before it starts does not inspire confidence.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 907 - 25/08/2020 14:14:53    2289084

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Replying To Canuck:  "What a way to start a championship with a plan to cancel. The extent of games to be forfeited not known. The whole idea is ludicrous. The only way this could be done and is already proven to work (NHL) is to form a bubble. This is not practical for amateur players who need to go to work, milk cows, feed livestock, give health care etc. etc. Let alone the cost of.
I would love to have our games but the risk is way too high and planning for failure before it starts does not inspire confidence."
But look at the success the club games have been in the last few months.

I think it's important for the country to have a championship this year.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1152 - 25/08/2020 14:24:19    2289085

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Replying To Canuck:  "What a way to start a championship with a plan to cancel. The extent of games to be forfeited not known. The whole idea is ludicrous. The only way this could be done and is already proven to work (NHL) is to form a bubble. This is not practical for amateur players who need to go to work, milk cows, feed livestock, give health care etc. etc. Let alone the cost of.
I would love to have our games but the risk is way too high and planning for failure before it starts does not inspire confidence."
It's no different to what UEFA are doing with European soccer, any team who can't play forfeit the game. The same is also true for rugby in England. Its far from ideal but there is nothing ideal about the times we are in.
I thought it was vital club competitions started and it is clear what a lift they have given to kids and adults across the country in recent weeks. I'd have no issue with all intercounty games being cancelled though, without supporters there I see little point in it.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2451 - 25/08/2020 14:29:41    2289088

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Well I'm from Limerick and the county didn't sit on its hands in the War of Independence. I would be considered a partitionist by you in that Im happy to have Northern Ireland and Ireland living happily together on one Island. Whats striking to me is that you have Southerners supporting a SF party thats run from a different country. Fellas from Galway and Kerry identifying with West Belfast people. Its crazy. Its left wing ludicrous policies arent even the main issue. SF history of criminality and disloyalty to whatever state they live in is my issue.
I dont see any equivalence between our FF and FG parties and SF. SF would push us towards a terrible border poll which would be devisive. Id vote status quo anyway. The GAA should keep well clear of Republicanism because 75% of irish people have little time for it."
What a silly point of view you have when you think that it's crazy they people from Kerry and Galway can't identify with people from West Belfast.

Personally, I think I've more in common with those in West Belfast than I would with people who grew up in a more rural setting, be that in Tyrone or Tipperary.

The north isn't some alien place, its in Ireland. There are differences, sure, but there are huge differences between West Kerry and West Dublin too.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13086 - 25/08/2020 14:47:42    2289089

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Replying To carlovia:  "But look at the success the club games have been in the last few months.

I think it's important for the country to have a championship this year."
Yes the club games are great. It is about risk assessment. Bringing players from county to county must be increasing this factor at a time of the year when the sickness curve goes up. Hopefully it will go without a major outbreak but risky.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 907 - 25/08/2020 14:56:05    2289091

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Replying To browncows:  "Your post speaks for itself and demonstrates that you know very little about the history of what went on in the north of our country - are you not aware of what the crown forces, who were supposed to be trying to keep law and order were up to. You should educate yourself on the history of that part of our country before making ill informed comments and I do not condone violence let it be in 1916 or 1969!, or 2020. Obviously you do not believe the democratic process."
'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1283 - 25/08/2020 16:43:38    2289109

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Well I'm from Limerick and the county didn't sit on its hands in the War of Independence. I would be considered a partitionist by you in that Im happy to have Northern Ireland and Ireland living happily together on one Island. Whats striking to me is that you have Southerners supporting a SF party thats run from a different country. Fellas from Galway and Kerry identifying with West Belfast people. Its crazy. Its left wing ludicrous policies arent even the main issue. SF history of criminality and disloyalty to whatever state they live in is my issue.
I dont see any equivalence between our FF and FG parties and SF. SF would push us towards a terrible border poll which would be devisive. Id vote status quo anyway. The GAA should keep well clear of Republicanism because 75% of irish people have little time for it."
Meath didn't sit on its hands either. Sure wasn't ashbourne (where my grandfather fought) one of the Easter rising rebellion.
Also I'd be a constitutional nationalist. So he was wrong on both parts. So don't worry about it. According to some of u don't vote sf ur a partitionist :). That means over 75% are.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16724 - 25/08/2020 17:02:33    2289113

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Replying To bloodyban:  "'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!"
Nice revisionist line, always knew you were a partitionist.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 46 - 25/08/2020 17:26:57    2289115

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Replying To bloodyban:  "'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!"
A civil rights march is a catalyst for violence? The IRA were responsible even though the Brits murdered 14 unarmed civilians which is now a proven fact after years of cover ups and diversion from the British Government? You would fit in well with the most bigoted members of the DUP up here. The one thing you're right on is the education system has a lot to answer for, even if its not what you meant by it. I actually can't believe an Irishman would write such boll*cks.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 1965 - 25/08/2020 17:37:06    2289117

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It is sad to hear someone try to rewrite history and one wonders where they did their research. Facts matter and there is no question that an abundance of food was available during the famine but was taken by British landlords causing the death of millions. There are people the same who deny the holocaust. The British and German people of today are not to blame for the past but it needs to be told properly and remembered so this type of genocide is not repeated.
It is sadder still to hear someone down play the treatment are fellow country men where subject in Northern Ireland because it is recent history. Not an IRA supporter but they were supported and grew out of this mistreatment. If you look at every war of independence and revolution, unfortunately it started with what could be called terrorism. All the rubbish from the U.S. about the current marches is rubbish. There revolution start with the Boston tea party if you read the actual facts it was no Sunday picnic.
I apologize again for being off subject but while accepting the right to express, do not like some of the opinions given.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 907 - 25/08/2020 18:57:46    2289127

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