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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Sorry but your sense of logic needs readjusting. The payments are being made because people cannot work, they cannot work because of COVID and the lockdown, hence if we keep going into lockdowns we keep needing to make the payments. We need to learn to live with it and have people at work - its a crazy idea but it has to happen and if that is to happen. Now your an expert on everything so I assume you have a ready made answer for how we are going to live with this virus going forward or are you one of those people who think we can eradicate it altogether ?
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 952 - 25/10/2020 01:44:21
Many of the people on the payments will be getting the payments even if we dont keep going back into lockdown as there jobs were lost and will not be coming back simply because we are out of lockdown.
You have to minimise risk. And you seem to know how we are doing it all wrong so why dont you provide an answer as to how we should be living with it."
So, let me see
I have said we cannot keep locking down the country as a way of living with the virus. I believe everyone needs to wear masks and we need to repurpose our healthcare systems and perhaps build covid specific treatment centers as a way of preventing this virus from causing even more damage. We need to ensure that people working in high risk areas are regularly tested and supported if they are out of work if they have the virus. We need to change our labor laws such that support is given to people who are directly affected by positive cases not everyone in the country. If a viable vaccine is produced, then it should be free and anyone who does not take it will not get financial support if they get the virus. That's just a few but end the lockdowns. There is no one answer but the question needs to be addressed and it not being at the moment.
So tell me since you are on here criticizing everyone who says that we have to change the way we are doing this, tell me how the country continues to pay for all the payments and how people who need to get medical care other then covid are going to get it, or is your solution to hide indoors forever. Your logic is that because some jobs will be lost as a result of covid and how we have responded to it - lockdowns, that we should stay in lockdowns as its not worth coming out of them. Brilliant idea."
So, let me see
I have said we cannot keep locking down the country as a way of living with the virus. I believe everyone needs to wear masks and we need to repurpose our healthcare systems and perhaps build covid specific treatment centers as a way of preventing this virus from causing even more damage. We need to ensure that people working in high risk areas are regularly tested and supported if they are out of work if they have the virus. We need to change our labor laws such that support is given to people who are directly affected by positive cases not everyone in the country. If a viable vaccine is produced, then it should be free and anyone who does not take it will not get financial support if they get the virus. That's just a few but end the lockdowns. There is no one answer but the question needs to be addressed and it not being at the moment.
So tell me since you are on here criticizing everyone who says that we have to change the way we are doing this, tell me how the country continues to pay for all the payments and how people who need to get medical care other then covid are going to get it, or is your solution to hide indoors forever. Your logic is that because some jobs will be lost as a result of covid and how we have responded to it - lockdowns, that we should stay in lockdowns as its not worth coming out of them. Brilliant idea.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 953 - 25/10/2020 16:18:40
I never said or implied that indefinite lockdowns are the solution. You have to continue the payments because you cant just have people go back to normal as that spreads covid far more and puts far more pressure on the healthcare system.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1659 - 25/10/2020 16:55:04    2301219

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Great win for Tyrone and they will have great momentum now coming into the Ulster Championship next Sunday, Conor McKenna is some addition to them, we have a tough job on our hands now to stop them, hopefully we can get it right on the day,
4 Ulster teams in Div 1 next season, no doubt which is the strongest province, Dublin and Kerry will coast to the All ireland semi finals, different story in Ulster."
Very good win seeing how they were missing some players. Ulster is always a dogfight. It'll be tough again this year.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1091 - 26/10/2020 11:28:43    2301544

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Because there's no back door, I can see high scoring matches. Let the forwards do the talking and get it into them. Hopefully.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 277 - 27/10/2020 12:46:23    2301964

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Waterford County Board taking decisive action.

Good to see.

The excuse that they didn't know someone waiting on a test result had to isolate was in the ball park of the cat ate my homework excuse!

No doubt it will be appealed and eventually overturned as all things are in the GAA but at least they are trying to do the right thing.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1293 - 27/10/2020 12:58:00    2301974

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Tyrone very quiet on Hampsey. I'd say Mickey is looking to play him on Sunday.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 484 - 27/10/2020 13:48:05    2301998

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Because there's no back door, I can see high scoring matches. Let the forwards do the talking and get it into them. Hopefully."
Would think the removal of the back door might lead to a more cagey game, among the top teams especially (Don v Tyr).

It will be interesting to see how some heavy underdogs approach games tho. Keeping the score "respectable" to keep a bit of morale for the qualifiers isn't going to be an option.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4150 - 27/10/2020 14:06:43    2302014

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Replying To ryan:  "Tyrone very quiet on Hampsey. I'd say Mickey is looking to play him on Sunday."
Did I read somewhere that the gaa are testing all players before championship.. be a lot of anxious managers about awaiting results. Sean cavanagh writing in paper today saying there seems to be difference in protocols north and south and that it could favour teams from the north. Don't really know the ins and outs of it, I'm just hoping that all teams stay COVID free and that we have a good c ship.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 852 - 27/10/2020 14:16:04    2302025

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Replying To ryan:  "Tyrone very quiet on Hampsey. I'd say Mickey is looking to play him on Sunday."
That's a wee bit cheeky lad, you seem to be implying there's something underhand going on

downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 560 - 27/10/2020 14:30:06    2302042

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Waterford County Board taking decisive action.

Good to see.

The excuse that they didn't know someone waiting on a test result had to isolate was in the ball park of the cat ate my homework excuse!

No doubt it will be appealed and eventually overturned as all things are in the GAA but at least they are trying to do the right thing."
Yea at least sends the right message, unfortunately too late for this year but hopefully won't be forgotten next year!

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 983 - 27/10/2020 16:44:21    2302143

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Very sad, but I was chatting with some of my ilk over the last couple of days, most a lot older than myself. General concensus was that they'd rather die than 'live' like this.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1358 - 27/10/2020 17:03:01    2302152

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Replying To lilypad:  "Very sad, but I was chatting with some of my ilk over the last couple of days, most a lot older than myself. General concensus was that they'd rather die than 'live' like this."
It's fine for anyone to say that, but our hospitals cannot cope with an influx of long-stay admissions for people who would rather take the risk.

Altnagelvin has no free ICU beds as of this morning.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 195 - 27/10/2020 18:53:02    2302210

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Bad news reports emerging out of the Tyrone camp with a player allegedly testing positive. Hopefully this doesn't have a huge impact on the rest of the squad.

Best wishes to the player involved.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3677 - 27/10/2020 19:55:41    2302242

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Bad news reports emerging out of the Tyrone camp with a player allegedly testing positive. Hopefully this doesn't have a huge impact on the rest of the squad.

Best wishes to the player involved."
I think that news came out last Saturday Mc kenna saying today it was a squad member but the rest of the squad are ok and haven't to self isolate.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 852 - 27/10/2020 20:57:01    2302268

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Replying To rorysboys:  "I think that news came out last Saturday Mc kenna saying today it was a squad member but the rest of the squad are ok and haven't to self isolate."
Good stuff, all the best to the lad in question and good to know it won't impact the wider squad to much.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3677 - 27/10/2020 21:04:32    2302274

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Good stuff, all the best to the lad in question and good to know it won't impact the wider squad to much."
It is a really precarious situation for all counties - 1 bad case spread amongst the squad and that could be their team's season over. It is just so difficult for each county to stay completely clear of it.

Was reading on RTE:-
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1027/1174213-eu-covid-vaccine/

Looks like we could be living with this bloody thing next season also unfortunately...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3309 - 27/10/2020 21:36:58    2302286

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Replying To lilypad:  "Very sad, but I was chatting with some of my ilk over the last couple of days, most a lot older than myself. General concensus was that they'd rather die than 'live' like this."
What strange circles you move in. Would imagine hospitalisation and a spell in ICU will quickly change that view.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1435 - 27/10/2020 23:07:53    2302304

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Replying To rorysboys:  "I think that news came out last Saturday Mc kenna saying today it was a squad member but the rest of the squad are ok and haven't to self isolate."
I hope none of the Tyrone players have it, I would rather we both had full squads to pick from and the best team on the day wins,
could be a wee bit of fake news spinning going on too though, they were saying this in the media before the Mayo game too.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 27/10/2020 23:21:13    2302307

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "It's fine for anyone to say that, but our hospitals cannot cope with an influx of long-stay admissions for people who would rather take the risk.

Altnagelvin has no free ICU beds as of this morning."
no winners

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1358 - 27/10/2020 23:28:49    2302310

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A good news story which hasn't made the headlines for some reason but which surely augers well for the years ahead. While we have had all these Covid deaths in UK and Ireland we seem to have eradicated Flu and Pneumonia deaths in 2020 so if they can get this vaccine sorted for Covid then we are going to have a lot more people alive each year going forward.

Latest figures from the ONS for England and Wales have shown there are approx 37,000 less recorded deaths from Flu and Pneumonia in 2020 than previous years......:

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4036 - 28/10/2020 10:04:54    2302349

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "A good news story which hasn't made the headlines for some reason but which surely augers well for the years ahead. While we have had all these Covid deaths in UK and Ireland we seem to have eradicated Flu and Pneumonia deaths in 2020 so if they can get this vaccine sorted for Covid then we are going to have a lot more people alive each year going forward.

Latest figures from the ONS for England and Wales have shown there are approx 37,000 less recorded deaths from Flu and Pneumonia in 2020 than previous years......:"
Similar statistical comparisons should be released here also.

Definitely won't be getting any flu jab this year. ;o)

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3309 - 28/10/2020 10:44:08    2302374

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