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Replying To sam1884:  "Furlong that post made me smile :) As a neutral if I'm allowed to comment! I'd say 1996 taught Tyrone and a few other teams a lot. Tyrone were never kicked off the park again and when teams moved to the gyms and good conditioning it's no coincidence Meath fell from the top very quickly and haven't returned to the top table in 20 years. Yes Meath won that day but time is a great thing and Tyrone ultimately learnt more from it; it was the day the country caught onto Meath; it took a few years to get conditioning in place but when it was Meath were gone."
The Dublin teams of 80s and 90s were big strong powerful teams, the Kerry and Cork of 80s and 90s teams were big strong powerful teams, the Ulster teams in 80s and 90s were big strong teams. Mayo teams of 80s and 90s were big strong teams. The laois team of late 80s and Armagh late 80s I remeber where big strong powerful teams. The Clare and Galway teams in hurling in 80s and 90s were big strong powerful teams. Meath were no bigger or stronger then any other team. Dublin were just as big and strong with powerful big men in 80s and 90s like Brian Mullins Gerry Hargan Mick Kennedy Jim Roynane Mick Holden Keith Barr Eamon Heery Pat Gilroy Pat Sheedy Mick Galvin Dessie Farrell Charlie Redmond Joe McNally Tommy Drum Vinny Murphy. Look at the size of Cork team 87 88 with Colm Corrigan Dinny Allen Dave Barry Shea Fahy Larry Tompkins Danny Culloty Niall Callahane Teddy Mccarthy Stephen O Brien. That team was a big powerful strong imposing team.
The Dublin team of 70s was much tougher then Meath 87 8i. Sean Doherty made Mick lyons look like a choir boy. 83 final was the most violent final ever. 88 final was harmless in comparsion. Big strong powerful teams were everywhere in 90s and 80s but not every county had a genius of a manager like Boylan and great players and especially great forwards Meath had.. The reason Meath were so sucessful was they had great manager and great skilful player. Take 87 88 team had 4 players who won Footballers of the year. Robbie O Malley Martin O Connell Colm O Rourke and Brian Stafford all won footballer of the year. Put that into perspective regards great kerry team of 75 to 86 Jack O Shea won a couple of footballers of the year but that team had 4 players also who won footballer of the year eg John O keefe Jack O Shea Pat Spillane Mikey Sheedy. A team with 4 footballers of the year cannot be a bad team. Meath 87 88 had 4. Trevor Giles is the only ever two time footballer of the year ( GPA GAA footballer of the year award). Look at the great skilful players Meath had 86 to 01. Look at all the great forwards they. Meath had much better forwards then Dublin in 80s and 90s and always did every generation from 30s 40s 50s 60s even 70s Rennicks kerrigan and O Rourke were just as good as Dublin forwards. In 80s 90s and even 00s Meath had better forwards then Dubs Thats one of the reasons Meath defeated Dublin 8 times and 3 draw in leinster championship over Dublin in 15 years under Sean Boylan. Its only in this decade Dublin have better forwards then Meath and Dublin have best forwards in the country in this decade. Meath stopped producing great players and great manager left. They declined. After a golden era every county declines. look at kerry after 86, look at Galways and Down after 60s, Look Cavan after 40s and 50s, look at kildare after 20s, look at Tipp hurling after 60s look at Cork hurling after 40s and 50s. Every single team in hurling or football who had a golden age they declined afterwards. Look how teams decline when a great manager retires after two decades in charge look at Man Utd after Ferguson left and Matt Busby left, look at Asrenal after Wenger left. Meath decline was a normal sporting occurance. When you have a sporting golden era its followed by a decline.
Look at all these brillant footballers

Robbie O Malley Mick Lyons Joe Cassells Gerry McEntee Martin O Connell Brian Stafford David Beggy Colm O Rourke Darren Fay Tommy Dowd John McDermont Mark Reilly Evan kelly Graham Geraghty Ollie Murphy Trevor Giles Brendan Reilly. Those players between them won 44 All stars, they were all all star players and they won between them 6 footballers of the year and one of them was the only modern player on the team of the Millenium.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 19/10/2020 18:03:54    2299312

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "The GAA should pull the plug on the 2020 championship. I think it will create a lot of bad pr following a good few weeks of already bad pr for them if their 'elite' players can go swanning around the country while everyone else be potentially fined for going 5km away from your house. Plus it gives a boost to the government for it to go ahead, an 'ah this will keep some of the boggers' happy scenario while they're trapped inside their house until next spring, because make no mistake, this virus isn't going to magically disappear after six weeks of lockdown. The minute things open up again it would flare up. And we repeat and repeat and repeat."
Maybe you should just pull the plug in Leitrim and let the rest of us get on with it.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 19/10/2020 18:24:15    2299318

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Replying To Saynothing:  "If the weekends football told us something, it's how professional the GAA really are. Other sports could take a lesson from them. They were brilliant and that's all teams."
Very true. Lets not forget it was Italian rugby fans partying in temple bar who flew in from a affected area at the start of this.

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 486 - 19/10/2020 18:29:03    2299323

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I think the government has totally fudged the decision on the Championship going ahead. They've put the ball in the GAA's court. Woeful stuff from our supposed leadership. Now don't get me wrong, and I know it's very selfish of me, but I would love it if the games can go ahead. But we elect our leadership to lead, not to pass the buck. They just do not want to be the bad guys/spoil sports in this situation"
Agree, poorest Govt & Taoiseach in a long time, not capable of decision making or leadership. Ireland is devoid of leadership & accountability amongst all parties & levels of Irish politics & society. The Golf gate scenario still continues because some think they are above us all.
Speaking of leadership, has the GAA hierarchy gone into isolation, not a peep from them. Head in sand leaders.
The most vocal whatabouts are the two Yerra boys who are getting itchy fingers in case their print media & TV sidelines are impinged on, even the useless Ringer was able to call one of them out & expose him. Those guys going on about mental health is a laugh, its all about the bank account. They couldn't give a toss about people dying once they get what they want.
The cases nationwide following county finals is an indictment on the GAA. The video footage from around the country is shocking, many of these guys are also Inter County footballers. This week I learnt that locally a young child with an underlying condition has now contracted it, directly linked to a recent county final, its shameful & people saying its nothing to do with clubs is just downright hypocrisy. Will the GAA take responsibility if any deaths are linked directly to on field or off field activities post games, by GAA members.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1052 - 19/10/2020 18:36:58    2299330

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Not bother in the slightest about 96. We've had plenty of good days since and bad. You mentioned rumours twice by the way but it was mostly He said, he said. But sure you got your dig at the GAA anyways."
I put up 22 links . Twenty two links I put up links from The Irish Sun, The Irish mirror, The Irish Independent, The Irish Times, The Irish Post, The Irish News, The Meath Chronicle, Clare Echo, Belfast Telegraph, Balls.ie and 42.ie.
So you are saying articles from The Irish Times, The Irish Independent, The Irish Mirror and all the above are he said he said. You the one that not dealing in facts. My links and reference 22 of them. Yes Twenty teo are very very credible source top quality sources.

You are not bothered about 96. Well you are then the first Tyrone gaa supporter that I have encountered that wouldnt go into negative rage and rant about 96. I have had to listen to 24 years of Tyrone and 96. So your a big supporter of Meath and cheered Meath on they won in 96 and 99. Thats very believeable. I have never ever met Tyrone person who didnt dislike Meath, and dislike is a very polite way of saying it. This is Meath v Tyrone 96, thats all it is. We had better team better players and in semi finals that Meath team was devastating look how they defeated Armagh in 99 semi final by 5 points and defeated the great kerry team of 00s with swashbuckling skilful football by 15 points in semi final 01. Meath were just a better team.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 19/10/2020 18:49:12    2299332

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "It's 5 weeks since the published this covid roadmap, and already it means nothing, even when it came out they had Dublin at half a level higher than was stated (there are no half levels)
now they say we are going to level 4 plus a half or level 5 minus a half, if you are still with me, it's a total fudge as you say by an incompetent government.
closing the shops here in Donegal will just send everyone into Derry and Strabane, places with the highest level of virus in Ireland, pity we hadn't some brains at leadership level."
So the problem is the rule makers and not those travelling across the border to somewhere they shouldn't if they're suppose to restrict their movements to less than 5km ?
Yeah , sure it's always someone else's fault.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1661 - 19/10/2020 18:54:40    2299337

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It seems like the Championship is going ahead as of now, 7pm on Monday 19th. I hope they get the Allianz leagues finished first. It is a tricky situation for the GAA management. If All Ireland's go ahead, and there is an outbreak in a panel. Can the team play on- within the 10 day self isolation. Also if there is an extrem weather warning what happens then. I have said it before, to me the All Ireland is a summer competition. For the long July and August days. When people can relax. Hurling on a muddy field in December. Will that work. Finally what will the many enemies of the GAA try. They will attack and moan non stop during the lockdown about elite GAA players. Anyway I trust the GAA to do the right thing.Slán

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1930 - 19/10/2020 18:55:03    2299338

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It seems like the Championship is going ahead as of now, 7pm on Monday 19th. I hope they get the Allianz leagues finished first. It is a tricky situation for the GAA management. If All Ireland's go ahead, and there is an outbreak in a panel. Can the team play on- within the 10 day self isolation. Also if there is an extrem weather warning what happens then. I have said it before, to me the All Ireland is a summer competition. For the long July and August days. When people can relax. Hurling on a muddy field in December. Will that work. Finally what will the many enemies of the GAA try. They will attack and moan non stop during the lockdown about elite GAA players. Anyway I trust the GAA to do the right thing.Slán

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1930 - 19/10/2020 18:55:03    2299339

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I was at that Meath/Tyrone semi. I remember looking around the pitch at one stage and there were numerous off the ball incidents that didn't favour Tyrone by any means. In fairness Tyrone learned from that and as we know came good in the decade that followed.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1358 - 19/10/2020 19:27:55    2299344

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Replying To catch22:  "So the problem is the rule makers and not those travelling across the border to somewhere they shouldn't if they're suppose to restrict their movements to less than 5km ?
Yeah , sure it's always someone else's fault."
Doesn't matter who's fault it is, I'm saying what happens up here, that's why we need an all Ireland approach, if the petrol is a few cents cheaper either side of the border people will travel for it, if the clothes shops and toy shops are closed here people will flood into Derry and Strabane/Enniskillen, I know they shouldn't but that's what they will do and have always done. even when it was just to save a few quid in the wee north.
Led by donkeys but there's lots of them in the population too.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 19/10/2020 19:55:08    2299351

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Replying To galwayford:  "It seems like the Championship is going ahead as of now, 7pm on Monday 19th. I hope they get the Allianz leagues finished first. It is a tricky situation for the GAA management. If All Ireland's go ahead, and there is an outbreak in a panel. Can the team play on- within the 10 day self isolation. Also if there is an extrem weather warning what happens then. I have said it before, to me the All Ireland is a summer competition. For the long July and August days. When people can relax. Hurling on a muddy field in December. Will that work. Finally what will the many enemies of the GAA try. They will attack and moan non stop during the lockdown about elite GAA players. Anyway I trust the GAA to do the right thing.Slán"
Sure you got the leagues finish, is that not enough for ye?

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1358 - 19/10/2020 19:57:01    2299352

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Replying To sam1884:  "Furlong that post made me smile :) As a neutral if I'm allowed to comment! I'd say 1996 taught Tyrone and a few other teams a lot. Tyrone were never kicked off the park again and when teams moved to the gyms and good conditioning it's no coincidence Meath fell from the top very quickly and haven't returned to the top table in 20 years. Yes Meath won that day but time is a great thing and Tyrone ultimately learnt more from it; it was the day the country caught onto Meath; it took a few years to get conditioning in place but when it was Meath were gone."
Meath didn't fall from grace very quickly after that we won the all ireland that year. We were involved in a fabulous series of games with kildare in 97 which ultimately in my view cost us an ireland that year as the team was ravaged with injuries after those 3 great games.
We won the all ireland in 99 and lost in the final in 01. That's a full 5 years after that game I fully believe that group should have won more but it wasn't to be. Meaths fall from grace as you put it was due to the lack of quality players coming behind that team and no other reason
What's also lost is the quality of football Meath played in that 96 semi considering they went into the game complete underdogs with a very young team the football the team played that day was excellent

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 19/10/2020 20:32:47    2299375

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Replying To catch22:  "So the problem is the rule makers and not those travelling across the border to somewhere they shouldn't if they're suppose to restrict their movements to less than 5km ?
Yeah , sure it's always someone else's fault."
In general the majority of the public around the world have been good to follow guide lines with the exception of the U.S. Not everyone and not enough. The ones dotting the I's and crossing the T's are getting tired from the restrictions and especially when the see the arrogance of law makers in many countries when behind closed doors or out of camera, We have seen it in U.S., Ireland and Canada. The rules it seems are for the peasants and the poster calling them out is correct. This I believe will result in many more death's as the amount of people complying drop off because of the example shown by people who are supposed to lead. I hope this does not happen and we will all show good example to our family, friends and neighbours. After all giving them the gift of continued life is as about as good as it gets.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 988 - 19/10/2020 20:55:27    2299384

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Maybe you should just pull the plug in Leitrim and let the rest of us get on with it."
Well well well. Your reply was ironic.
My presumption is that you wouldn't say those comments re Leitrim if you realised an ex County player for Leitrim is now on the donegal County team.
Would you have a method of your madness telling us to pull the plug.
Would you be from the extreme south of Donegal near the Drowes (the river on the county border the counties) who would be looking for more Leitrim players for you county team which are beginning to look like an United nations outfit.
My mind is now just thinking of years ago when a Brogan man played for the hills. A true Donegal man, was it Mountcharles he was born and reared in?
Oh I remember now. I have a memory like a sive. Sorry.
He was working in South Donegal thus he transferred from the green and red of another Connaught MAYO.
If I am not right with my facts re those players, I humbly apologise and would welcome you to mend my accuracy.

Shannonview (Leitrim) - Posts: 56 - 19/10/2020 21:06:26    2299391

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Level 5 until December 2nd

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1659 - 19/10/2020 21:10:54    2299392

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "I put up 22 links . Twenty two links I put up links from The Irish Sun, The Irish mirror, The Irish Independent, The Irish Times, The Irish Post, The Irish News, The Meath Chronicle, Clare Echo, Belfast Telegraph, Balls.ie and 42.ie.
So you are saying articles from The Irish Times, The Irish Independent, The Irish Mirror and all the above are he said he said. You the one that not dealing in facts. My links and reference 22 of them. Yes Twenty teo are very very credible source top quality sources.

You are not bothered about 96. Well you are then the first Tyrone gaa supporter that I have encountered that wouldnt go into negative rage and rant about 96. I have had to listen to 24 years of Tyrone and 96. So your a big supporter of Meath and cheered Meath on they won in 96 and 99. Thats very believeable. I have never ever met Tyrone person who didnt dislike Meath, and dislike is a very polite way of saying it. This is Meath v Tyrone 96, thats all it is. We had better team better players and in semi finals that Meath team was devastating look how they defeated Armagh in 99 semi final by 5 points and defeated the great kerry team of 00s with swashbuckling skilful football by 15 points in semi final 01. Meath were just a better team."
Very easy solution regarding 96. You build a bridge and get over it. As I said before lots of good days since in the 00s. Great teams all on a even par. Dublin, Kerry, Armagh, Mayo,Galway, Cork,Mayo,Tyrone. What a decades football. So you see 96 is easily forgot.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 278 - 19/10/2020 21:21:23    2299395

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Ok so the Taoiseach was just on talking about us all going into Level 5 from Wed - no mention of Sport or Elite Sport as they call it...

Did I miss something, or are they still trying to avoid making a decision on it....??

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3309 - 19/10/2020 21:25:18    2299400

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Replying To runnerin:  "Meath didn't fall from grace very quickly after that we won the all ireland that year. We were involved in a fabulous series of games with kildare in 97 which ultimately in my view cost us an ireland that year as the team was ravaged with injuries after those 3 great games.
We won the all ireland in 99 and lost in the final in 01. That's a full 5 years after that game I fully believe that group should have won more but it wasn't to be. Meaths fall from grace as you put it was due to the lack of quality players coming behind that team and no other reason
What's also lost is the quality of football Meath played in that 96 semi considering they went into the game complete underdogs with a very young team the football the team played that day was excellent"
The reason we didnt win more because it was the most competitive decade in the history of gaelic football. In 9 years in the 90s eight different teams won Sam Maguire. You had all time great managers like Sean Boylan Mick Dwyer Billy Morgan Pete McGrath Brian McEniff Eamon Coleman and Paudi O Se winning Sam Maguire in 90s. You had all time great players like Peter Cavanan Mickey Linden Michael Donnellan Padraig Joyce, Ciaran McDonald, Larry Tompkins, Maurice Fitzgerald Seamus Moyihan Dara O Se Glen Ryan Paul Curran Colm O Rourke Martin O Connell Trevor Giles and so many more. You had Galways best team of last 50 years 98, You had Cork greatest team ever in 90 years. You had brillant kerry team which ended their famine 97, you had Mayos best team up to that in 40 years 96 97, best Clare team ever 1992, Best leitrm team ever 93, possibly the greatest Donegal team ever 92, the greatest Derry team ever 93 , the greatest Down team of last 50 years 91 94. You had the best Cavan team of last 50 year 97. You had an Armagh team who would become Armaghs greatest team in 02 and you had one of the best teams to ever come out of Tyrone in 95 96.

And in leinster you have the most competitive era in the history of leinster football. Where you have brillant Dublin team in 95, best kildare team in the last 90 years 98. Best offaly team of the last 35 years 97 and also very good louth team at the time and the greatest Meath team ever 90 91 and another great Meath 96 99 a team that was the greatest team to come out of leinster in last 60 years outside Dublin All Ireland winning teams teams and Meath 87 88.

If Sean Boylan had a leinster championship like it is now where o Dublin hasnt faced consistent div 1 for 15 years. If Sean Boylan had similar championship in 90s to one we have now where there is absolutely no competition in leinster A leinster championship Sean Boylan and Meath would have won leinsters in 96 97 98 99 00 01. But in late 90s you had 4 of the best teams in the country in leinster with Meath and Dublin winning 3 All Irelands between them, kildare winning leinster and reaching an All Ireland final and Offaly winnig leinster and league div 1 title, Sean Boylan to win an All Ireland in such an era was some achievement.

Yet in this incredible era the 90s that is the most competitve decade ever in gaa with so many great teams and players and seen leinster was so competitive in late 90s where you have 4 of best teams in the country in leinster for Sean Boylan to win so much was incredible achievement. Meath were the team of the decade in the 90s the most competitive decade ever. Meath and Down were the only teams to win 2 All Irelands in this era but Meath had two great teams in 90s and won most national titles with 2 All Ireland titles 4 All Ireland appearances 2 National league div 1 titles 4 leinster titles. I would place Meath over Down who did win 2 All Ireland but didnt a league title and only 2 Ulster titles in 90s. That Sean Boylan and Meath win 1 All Ireland in 90s was a great achivement but to win 2 All Irelands and produce two great teams in the most competitive era in the history of gaelic football that was serious going.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 19/10/2020 21:27:43    2299401

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Replying To Fionn:  "Ok so the Taoiseach was just on talking about us all going into Level 5 from Wed - no mention of Sport or Elite Sport as they call it...

Did I miss something, or are they still trying to avoid making a decision on it....??"
Gaa still allowed go ahead as far as I'm aware.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 663 - 19/10/2020 21:48:08    2299408

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GAA Championships and 6 nations are allowed continue as elite sports.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1661 - 19/10/2020 21:55:12    2299412

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