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Replying To football first:  "Tighter borders are not really an option, and would be impossible to monitor. An all-Island approach would be a much more logical approach, however unpalatable to some political views. But it was implemented successfully for the "foot and mouth" crisis..."
I agree All Island would be the easiest and most logical so good luck getting Politicians onboard with it. lol.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1019 - 28/09/2020 12:07:12    2294484

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It's a bit of a mess up here alright. We probably had more visitors to the county in 2020 than ever before and we also have the very busy cross border travel on a daily basis to contend with. It wouldn't be a popular decision at all but maybe we need a return to the 5km restrictions for a few weeks and get the Guards back doing checkpoints at the main border crossings. I can't see any other way around it to be honest.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7015 - 28/09/2020 12:38:42    2294495

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Then why was the Border brought up? I'm just asking questions. I lived by the Galway-Clare border and I guess if there was an issue there the Authorities might have to do something like shutting down the roads. That Galway to Ennis to Limerick road would be a nightmare. I hope it never comes to that."
Putting up a tight border between Galway and Clare would indeed be a problem similar to a tight border between Donegal and Tyrone.It is a tricky problem when you have not got the one government . If you had you could treat the counties of Donegal ,Tyrone and Derry where the rates are as a region and have restrictions around that similar to Kildare Laois and Offaly.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 661 - 28/09/2020 12:45:10    2294500

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Replying To Trump2020:  "What's the cause? No masks? Would you recommend a tighter border?"
I feel one of the major causes is that the northwest did not get many cases in the first wave and people got complacent. Donegal had zero cases for over 20 days during the summer. Another major problem is different restrictions on both sides of the border. For example, pubs are closed in Donegal now but you can skip across to Derry and Strabane where the pubs are opened. This is confusing people for sure.

A tighter border between north and south will not achieve much in my opinion. Cases are very high in Donegal, Derry and Tyrone so you would need to have no movement in and out of the entire region. We all know that won't happen because of politics.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1698 - 29/09/2020 09:51:31    2294687

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I feel one of the major causes is that the northwest did not get many cases in the first wave and people got complacent. Donegal had zero cases for over 20 days during the summer. Another major problem is different restrictions on both sides of the border. For example, pubs are closed in Donegal now but you can skip across to Derry and Strabane where the pubs are opened. This is confusing people for sure.

A tighter border between north and south will not achieve much in my opinion. Cases are very high in Donegal, Derry and Tyrone so you would need to have no movement in and out of the entire region. We all know that won't happen because of politics."
True I suppose. Man-made borders and man-made problems. Sigh.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1019 - 29/09/2020 23:09:51    2294814

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Replying To Trump2020:  "What's the cause? No masks? Would you recommend a tighter border?"
Masks are the problem . From masks came in things have got worse, people letting guard down because they're wearing masks. Keep social distance and wash hands regularly and your safer.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 130 - 30/09/2020 23:03:05    2294955

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Masks are the problem . From masks came in things have got worse, people letting guard down because they're wearing masks. Keep social distance and wash hands regularly and your safer."
I have seen this type of comment before and it is such utter rubbish. The main aim of masks is to prevent you from passing on the virus when you have it - yes with the right type of mask it may help or reduce the viral load that you receive (and stop you from touching your face) however the greatest benefit is to stop people from passing it on. So if you go into a room and you have one lad coughing and shouting while others are wearing masks then wearing the masks might save some but not all from getting it. If everyone wore a mask then you would see a dramatic reduction in the numbers but if people like yourself keep saying this rubbish then that won't happen.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 955 - 01/10/2020 04:52:32    2294963

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Replying To Trump2020:  "True I suppose. Man-made borders and man-made problems. Sigh."
Trump 2020 got handed his "ass" in the debate. It is looking like Irish Catholic Joe Biden 2020 now.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1901 - 01/10/2020 09:53:14    2294981

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Masks are the problem . From masks came in things have got worse, people letting guard down because they're wearing masks. Keep social distance and wash hands regularly and your safer."
That's a great point, never thought about it like that but your spot on. Some people are getting a bit lax on the other restrictions thinking that masks protect them.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5873 - 01/10/2020 10:21:19    2294990

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Replying To galwayford:  "Trump 2020 got handed his "ass" in the debate. It is looking like Irish Catholic Joe Biden 2020 now."
The "Debate" was horrible. Worst I've ever seen. Both guys interrupted each other and the Moderator was terrible. Either guy can win I'd say. Trump has been having huge rallies but Biden has the media, Wall Street, Hollywood, etc in his corner. Tough to say. Due to the Mail In Ballots it may get very messy. Lots of weird things happening already.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1019 - 01/10/2020 11:11:29    2295012

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Replying To zinny:  "I have seen this type of comment before and it is such utter rubbish. The main aim of masks is to prevent you from passing on the virus when you have it - yes with the right type of mask it may help or reduce the viral load that you receive (and stop you from touching your face) however the greatest benefit is to stop people from passing it on. So if you go into a room and you have one lad coughing and shouting while others are wearing masks then wearing the masks might save some but not all from getting it. If everyone wore a mask then you would see a dramatic reduction in the numbers but if people like yourself keep saying this rubbish then that won't happen."
In fairness, they are not saying the thought process is correct, they're saying that that line of thinking is prevalent and causes issues. 6 months later and I'm still having to correct older (and some younger) relatives on the fact that the mask doesn't protect you, it protects others. This point has been made over and over again by NPHET and the government, but trust has eroded in both to such an extreme that many people in Donegal do not care to listen to them.

Of course, though, social distancing and washing your hands is useless if everyone present is not wearing a mask, much like everyone wearing a mask is useless if they're not social distancing.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 165 - 01/10/2020 11:17:24    2295014

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Replying To zinny:  "I have seen this type of comment before and it is such utter rubbish. The main aim of masks is to prevent you from passing on the virus when you have it - yes with the right type of mask it may help or reduce the viral load that you receive (and stop you from touching your face) however the greatest benefit is to stop people from passing it on. So if you go into a room and you have one lad coughing and shouting while others are wearing masks then wearing the masks might save some but not all from getting it. If everyone wore a mask then you would see a dramatic reduction in the numbers but if people like yourself keep saying this rubbish then that won't happen."
If you have it, masks wont prevent you from passing it on. It's on your clothes , it's on door handles, it's everywhere. Washing and wiping and keeping your distance are a bigger deterrent. The figures came down long before masks came in.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 130 - 01/10/2020 12:55:22    2295040

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If you have it, masks wont prevent you from passing it on. It's on your clothes , it's on door handles, it's everywhere. Washing and wiping and keeping your distance are a bigger deterrent. The figures came down long before masks came in.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 39 - 01/10/2020 12:55:22
Yes regularly washing your hands and keeping distance helps a lot but wearing masks is also a help.

Masks are the problem. From masks came in things have got worse, people letting guard down because they're wearing masks. Keep social distance and wash hands regularly and your safer.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 39 - 30/09/2020 23:03:05
Masks are not the problem. People letting guard down because they are wearing masks is an issue but that doesnt mean we should stop using them. Keeping socially distant and washing hands should be in addition to wearing a mask not replacing it.

I have seen this type of comment before and it is such utter rubbish. The main aim of masks is to prevent you from passing on the virus when you have it - yes with the right type of mask it may help or reduce the viral load that you receive (and stop you from touching your face) however the greatest benefit is to stop people from passing it on. So if you go into a room and you have one lad coughing and shouting while others are wearing masks then wearing the masks might save some but not all from getting it. If everyone wore a mask then you would see a dramatic reduction in the numbers but if people like yourself keep saying this rubbish then that won't happen.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 924 - 01/10/2020 04:52:32
spot on

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 01/10/2020 13:31:26    2295055

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Replying To zinny:  "I have seen this type of comment before and it is such utter rubbish. The main aim of masks is to prevent you from passing on the virus when you have it - yes with the right type of mask it may help or reduce the viral load that you receive (and stop you from touching your face) however the greatest benefit is to stop people from passing it on. So if you go into a room and you have one lad coughing and shouting while others are wearing masks then wearing the masks might save some but not all from getting it. If everyone wore a mask then you would see a dramatic reduction in the numbers but if people like yourself keep saying this rubbish then that won't happen."
Is there anything more disgusting and dirty than these masks? Germs being concentrated into these masks and then handled and put in pocket, then opening doors and handling cash or goods to spread it everywhere. Disgusting.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 130 - 01/10/2020 15:41:05    2295083

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Is there anything more disgusting and dirty than these masks? Germs being concentrated into these masks and then handled and put in pocket, then opening doors and handling cash or goods to spread it everywhere. Disgusting."
Thats just false.
Masks prevent the spread and science backs that up link
What is disgusting is people who refuse to wear masks

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1371 - 01/10/2020 16:09:46    2295091

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Thats just false.
Masks prevent the spread and science backs that up link
What is disgusting is people who refuse to wear masks"
Dr Tony Holohan said back last March that he wasn't convinced that masks were any addition.

Moyle (Tipperary) - Posts: 49 - 01/10/2020 17:09:54    2295102

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Replying To Moyle:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "Thats just false.
Masks prevent the spread and science backs that up link
What is disgusting is people who refuse to wear masks"
Dr Tony Holohan said back last March that he wasn't convinced that masks were any addition."
This is the sort of rubbish that is contributing to the virus and the loss of life. People like you cherry picking what was said to make a point and discredit science. The actual facts are that scientist every where did not know the value of wearing masks and once learning more about the virus changed their minds or re-enforced the value of masks. They then did their civic and ethical duty by notifying the public.
Please stop spreading this false narrative and do you civic duty to protect our families and friends.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 907 - 01/10/2020 17:34:10    2295111

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Replying To Moyle:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "Thats just false.
Masks prevent the spread and science backs that up link
What is disgusting is people who refuse to wear masks"
Dr Tony Holohan said back last March that he wasn't convinced that masks were any addition."
This is the sort of rubbish that is contributing to the virus and the loss of life. People like you cherry picking what was said to make a point and discredit science. The actual facts are that scientist every where did not know the value of wearing masks and once learning more about the virus changed their minds or re-enforced the value of masks. They then did their civic and ethical duty by notifying the public.
Please stop spreading this false narrative and do you civic duty to protect our families and friends.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 907 - 01/10/2020 17:35:03    2295112

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Replying To Canuck:  "
Replying To Moyle:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "Thats just false.
Masks prevent the spread and science backs that up link
What is disgusting is people who refuse to wear masks"
Dr Tony Holohan said back last March that he wasn't convinced that masks were any addition."
This is the sort of rubbish that is contributing to the virus and the loss of life. People like you cherry picking what was said to make a point and discredit science. The actual facts are that scientist every where did not know the value of wearing masks and once learning more about the virus changed their minds or re-enforced the value of masks. They then did their civic and ethical duty by notifying the public.
Please stop spreading this false narrative and do you civic duty to protect our families and friends."]The CDC have just released stats that suggest the lockdown is completely unnecessary. No foil hat on those boys. So which is it. I am at a loss, this country is now screwed going forward I feel sorry for anyone with young children. What a mess.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1339 - 01/10/2020 19:00:00    2295130

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You wouldn't need to be an epidemiologist a virologist or to know that any kind of barrier is bound to be a help.A Doctor from Derry put it well yesterday when he asked the naysayers if they were going in to a Covid test centre would they rather go in with or without a Mask.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 661 - 01/10/2020 19:20:13    2295135

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